Tuesday, 05 December 2006
During the last few months we’ve had a lot of clients who are very technically knowledgeable and coming to us to find out more after picking up on the buzz around systems and and in particular.

 

With the upcoming releases of 5.0 and 1.5, both systems are poised to make a big leap forward. However those launches may not happen for several months and many companies need to make a decision now, balancing the pros-and-cons of both solutions.

 

After talking and answers for several clients, we decided to put all we’d written into one document to help other people with this decision. Some disclaimers before we start:

  • This is not an vs discussion, but an open acknowledgement that each choice is appropriate for different . Sometimes we have to tell clients that neither will work for what they want.
  • This is not a comprehensive list. Please feel to tell us what we’ve missed or where we are wrong. Add your own thoughts via the link at the bottom of the form, or simply post a comment.
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Community Features Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_yes
Community Builder. A solid component, but one that really needs an extension to enable Youtube-style URLs.
Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_yes
Very impressive. Users can form groups and expansion of the registraion form is native to .
Shopping Cart Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_yes
has Virtuemart and an integration of OSCommerce, both of which beat ’s ecommerce addon. Use OSCommerce if you need multicurrency options or if you have a payment gateway not supported by VM
Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_no
Not recommended as it lacks tax and currency options. However, watch out for Ubercart which looks promising.
Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_no
Poor out of the box. OpenSEF is OK and improving fast. Advance is roughly comparable quality but costs 50 Euros. is not very well adapted for .
Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_yes
The out-of-the-box URLs work well and can be improved with one easy addon. The is generally lightweight and well-optimised.
Forums Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_yes
Use with Simple Machines Forum, which is the path taken by Joomla.org. Joomlaboard integrates natively to but lacks many key features.
Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_yes
A native and very smooth forum, but lacking in the high end features of the best modern forums. VbDrupal is the best way to avoid this (a Vbulletin hack)
Multimedia Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_yes
Yes, plenty of podcast and video options.
Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_yes
Yes - Drupal Video and podcast options also available.
Photo Galleries Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_yes
Yes. The best are integrations with Gallery2 and the Flash gallery Expose.
Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_yes
Has a default and a Gallery2 integration.
Event Calendars Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_yes
Several native plug-ins and integrations.
Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_no
Not great. There are options but they are far behind those available for .
Template / Themes Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_yes
has a wide selection of and commercial offerings. Once installed they can be assigned to different pages.
Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_no
Only one commercial developer. Off-the-shelf choices are very poor. Currently, assumes one template for all pages, although this can be adapted with effort and will 5.0 will allow to be assigned according to URL. your own is the best bet.
Blogs Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_yes
Some out-of-the-box capability. A good overview is here. Joomla.org uses a port of .
Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_yes
Good capabilities, although not a natural blog in the manner of .
Document Management Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_yes
Yes - DocMan.
Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_no
Not anything worth considering.
User Permissions Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_no
Some very major forks can work with , but this is a very poor area. is very admin-orientated. A small group of people are going to control and run the site. A lot of members can contribute by adding content, forum posts . but it is difficult to increase their permissions further.
Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_yes
wins hands-down. However, you still can’t manage single members. You need to add them to a certain group.
External Integration Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_yes
1.5 will help greatly with a much improved API and more hooks.
Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_yes
Currently wins easily with plenty of hooks
Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_no
In the core only Section >> Category >> Content is available. That’s it. No cross-categorization.
Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_yes
Unlimited categories and subcategories. Also allows for cross-categorization of articles.
Multisites Management Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_no
Commercial component.
Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_yes
Out-of-the-box.
Documentation Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_no
Poor, although work on this is progressing. There is however a wealth of useful information on the forums. 1.5 promises to be much more thoroughly documented.(Click here for 1.5 documentation.
Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_yes
Not too bad. (Click here for documentation and here for an API reference guide
SSL Compatible Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_no
With hacks.
Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_yes
Yes
Standards Compliance Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_no
Not great. Accessible is a fork necessary to move towards compliance. Mambo/ dates from before standards were even considered (1999).
Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_yes
Yes. Excellent out-of-the-box.
Internationalization Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_no
With Joomfish. Not an easy or straight-forward solution
Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_yes
Yes, Excellent. (via i18n )
Commercial Community Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_yes
Very strong. Perhaps the best in the world. Try Try Joomla Yellow Pages or Joomla.org.
Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_no
Weak. Difficult to find strong developers in any quantity. Try Drupal.org, Drupal Yellow Pages or Drupalancers.
General Community Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_yes
Great. 100s of extra available, both commercial and . Many companies now offering services.
Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_yes
Good community. Often more than business driven. Excellent forum support at Drupal.org.
Ease-of-use Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_yes
has a great graphical interface in separate area of website.
Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_yes
Administrator tasks on the current version are done via a menu on the frontpage which confuses many. 5.0 will solve this and also provide an online installer. Still, many needs technical knowledge.
Learning Curve Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_yes
Shallow. One of the very easiest systems to learn and customize.
Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_yes
A little steeper than , but still relatively easy to learn.
Speed Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_yes
A default installation of 1.0.11 loads in 0.90 seconds.
A default installation of 1.5 loads in 1.33 seconds. (Scores from sitescore.silktide.com)
Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You?  item_yes
A default installation loads in 1.05 seconds.
(Score from sitescore.silktide.com)
Size 1.0.11 is 16.4 MB
1.5 is 16.7 MB
Version 5.0 is 2.89 MB
Current Situation Unclear. When will 1.5 be out? Which version should people currently buiding use? One developer recently warned about relying on any firm deadlines or easy upgrades to the new version. Clear development path. Currently working on 5. Beta 2 came out at the end of November and a Candidate is probably next.
Overall 1.5 will be the crucial leap for the platform paving the way for the resolution of many old limitations. Producing a good-looking site with plenty of functionality is a relatively easy task with . is more community-oriented and the current live version is more extensible. That advantage will be greatly shortened once 1.5 is .
 
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